{"id":1437,"date":"2024-05-28T02:39:25","date_gmt":"2024-05-28T02:39:25","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/justicevoices.org\/?post_type=podcast&#038;p=1437"},"modified":"2025-11-29T16:12:47","modified_gmt":"2025-11-29T21:12:47","slug":"ep-21-turning-a-high-crime-community-around-deana-perez","status":"publish","type":"episodes","link":"https:\/\/justicevoices.org\/?episodes=ep-21-turning-a-high-crime-community-around-deana-perez","title":{"rendered":"Ep. 21: Turning a High Crime Community Around &#8212; Deana Perez"},"content":{"rendered":"\t\t<div data-elementor-type=\"wp-post\" data-elementor-id=\"1437\" class=\"elementor elementor-1437\" data-elementor-post-type=\"episodes\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<section data-particle_enable=\"false\" data-particle-mobile-disabled=\"false\" class=\"elementor-section elementor-top-section elementor-element elementor-element-44e397c4 elementor-section-boxed elementor-section-height-default elementor-section-height-default\" data-id=\"44e397c4\" data-element_type=\"section\" data-e-type=\"section\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-container elementor-column-gap-default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column elementor-col-100 elementor-top-column elementor-element elementor-element-5fbf8f99\" data-id=\"5fbf8f99\" data-element_type=\"column\" data-e-type=\"column\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-wrap elementor-element-populated\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-27e3b50d elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"27e3b50d\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tHow can a high crime community turn around and what does it take to make that happen?\r\n\r\nIn our last episode (episode 20), we heard Pastor Chris Harris of the Bronzeville area of south Chicago talking about his TURN model \u2013 The Urban Resilience Network \u2013 for turning around both high crime communities and preventing communities from becoming high crime communities.\r\n\r\nIn this episode we learn about a key component of that model through a conversation with Deana Perez, the Clinical Director of the Behavioral Health Unit of Bright Star Community Outreach (BSCO), through which Pastor Harris and his team turn vision into reality.\r\n\r\n00:00 Intro: How can a high crime community turn around and what does it take to make that happen?\r\n\r\n01:09 Deana Perez\u2019s background and qualifications\r\n\r\n03:16 Restorative justice: healing for both the victims and perpetrators of harm.\r\n\r\n05:36 Healing harm on both sides of the justice equation is cost-effective.\r\n\r\n07:08 Being proactive, rather than only reactive, in approaching justice and fighting crime. 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Application of those principles in work with the Greater Bronzeville Community Action Council.\r\n\r\n44:37 Pastor Harris\u2019 plans to scale up and export the TURN model to other communities.\r\n\r\n47:04 Systems feeding into the TURN Center as both a service provider and resource hub.\r\n\r\n53:09 Why Deana does what she does.\r\n\r\n54:05 TURN Center helpline: 833 TURN 123\r\n\r\n55:04 TURN Center even delivers trauma informed care to all, including some police officers (police work in a high crime community being a traumatizing profession).\r\n\r\n56:12 Outro\r\n\r\nBSCO website: https:\/\/brightstarcommunityoutreach.com\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/section>\n\t\t\t\t<section data-particle_enable=\"false\" data-particle-mobile-disabled=\"false\" class=\"elementor-section elementor-top-section elementor-element elementor-element-e0b8b49 elementor-section-boxed elementor-section-height-default elementor-section-height-default\" 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